5.14.2009

Goat Milk Formula Recipe: UPDATED!


Update, May 2011:

Since posting my son's story and this recipe several years ago, the response has been overwhelming. I have been able to connect personally to so many of you amazing moms who are taking this step towards providing the 2nd-best nutrition for your baby (obviously, we all wish we could breastfeed).


I get tons of questions every week about the goat milk, and if you don't hear back from me on the comments, please e-mail me: carrie (at) organicthrifty (dot) com and I would be happy to help you personally on this matter!


Also, I am now a trained and certified Nutritional Therapist and I use Hair Tissue Mineral Analysis to assess and evaluate my clients and to set up an entire, comprehensive nutritional protocol for them. I highly encourage you, if you are a recently post-partum mama to consider a consultation to help you repair and rebuild, especially if you have a low milk supply. This can be due to a low thyroid condition or heavy metal toxicities or many other mechanisms, and we can get to the bottom of it in a nutritional consultation with Hair Tissue Mineral Analysis. To learn more, please visit my Practice Website, Northwest Holistic Nutrition.


I am offering a special right now for my postpartum mamas and their babies on this formula: 2 for the price of one. Get yourself and your baby on a protocol to heal any and all imbalances and get you the right start! Please contact me and mention "2 for 1 for goatie babies" !


And as an update, my son Jonathan (below) will turn 4 next month, and he is doing fabulously. We have him on a Nutritional Balancing protocol and that additional nutritional support, specifically tailored to his unique physiology, is growing him into a strong, smart, energetic, and good-natured little boy! He is taller than nearly all of the kids in his little Bible Club class and he hasn't had a need to see the doctor for being sick in his whole life!


I am so thankful to Sally Fallon of the Weston A Price Foundation for her inspiration for this recipe, and so grateful that it has provided so many others with a healthy alternative to commercial formula.


To our children; our future!
May 2011


*********************

Several weeks ago, I shared the amazing story of my son, Jonathan, in his recovery from "failure to thrive" through the use of raw goat milk formula. In that post, I did not include my recipe, but have since gotten inquiries for it. Google searches for goat milk formula uncover various results, but here's what worked for Jonathan!

Disclaimer: It must be said that you should consult your health care practitioner for any and all infant feeding questions, and be certain that you have taken all measures in order to increase your breast milk supply if in fact you are supplementing for lack of milk as I was. Since I had thoroughly exhausted my efforts at increasing supply, I sought the most high-quality alternative under the supervision of two naturopathic doctors. Also, make sure to get a supply of goat milk from a farmer you can trust. If you must use pasteurized goat milk, you can do so as well.

This recipe is adapted from Dr. Mary Enig & Sally Fallon's Milk-Based Formula recipe in Nourishing Traditions:

Raw Goat Milk Formula

36 ounces:

2 cups raw goat milk (Why raw? Raw milk provides numerous enzymes, and allows the proteins to stay in tact while pastuerization renders them denatured. While raw milk will give optimal nutrition, it is my opinion that pastuerized and even powdered goats milk may be perferable, in some cases, to cow's milk for children with extreme sensitivities.)

2 cups filtered water (As the child grow, you should adjust this water-to-goat milk ratio by increasing the amount of goat milk and decreasing the amount of water. This can begin gradually at about 9 months. If stools become more difficult for the child to pass, then increase the amount of water and try again in another month).

1/4 cup liquid whey from goat yogurt or kefir (contains lots of good probiotics and is very nourishing; making it more like breast milk. To get whey simply strain goat milk yogurt or fil mjolk from Cultures for Health. (I get a lot of questions about the whey. You can also make it by straining plain cow milk yogurt, as long as there is no severe intolerance. Some people omit the whey, but I think it's very important)

1 -2 tsp organic blackstrap molassas (start with less, add more if needed. This provides B-vitamins, iron, trace minerals, and helped relieve constipation.) (If stools are too loose, decrease amount!)

2 tsp raw agave nectar (adds carbs, necessary for brain growth. Alternatively, you could use lactose, but I wanted to avoid this as I could not find a source that was made from goat milk since Jonathan was reacting to anything made from cow milk. Organic Brown Rice Syrup is also an option, but I didn't like the processing involved here. Obviously honey is out.) Update: Grade B, organic maple syrup is looking like the most ideal option out there in terms of sweeteners, so consider this if you are concerned about agave nectar. My son did fine with the agave, and he is not addicted to fruit or carbs (I have him on a sugar-free, low-starch and low-fruit diet).

1/4 tsp of bifodobacterium infantis (I used Metagenics "Bifidus" which is a dairy-free culture and of high quality. Also, Bio-Kult is a strong probiotic that has been used with infants as well. Consult your ND! Available through naturopaths, chiropractors, and other practitioners)

1/2 teaspoon high-vitamin cod liver oil (I used the Quantum brand from Radient Life) but any will do.

1 tsp unrefined sunflower oil (Rapunzel brand) for Vitamin E

1 tsp extra virgin olive oil for monosaturated fats

2 tsp virgin coconut oil (this is very important, as it contains lauric acid which is a medium-chain fatty acid. It's an important antiviral, antifungal that's found in breast milk)

2 tsp nutritional yeast (this is also very important as it contains the B vitamins. I like Lewis Labs Nutritional Yeast because it's gluten-free and full of a wide spectrum of minerals ) If your child is gassy or has reflux on this formula, remove the yeast first and see if it improves. Yeasts vary from brand to brand, and I can only recommend Lewis Labs.

1/4 teaspoon amla or NOW acerola powder (I prefer amla, as it does not contain any extra additives, and I found this for cheap in an Indian store)



Blend all ingredients together in a blender. Pour into individual glass bottles or one large. To warm, place in a pan of simmering water. Never use a microwave. This formula is best made daily to preserve freshness and to optimize nutrition.


Notes: Many recipes say to add frozen, raw goat liver for the purposes of replacing B vitamins. I never did this, but did begin feeding my son pureed chicken liver at 6 months.

Updates: Yes, you can add liquid B-vitamins such as Folic Acid and B12 rather than the Yeast. B-vitamins should be given at 1/4 of the adult dosage listed on the label.

Coconut oil can be difficult as it is solid when cold. You will notice it forming clumps on the surface of the formula. It can help to liquify the coconut oil by melting it slightly before blending. Then, when you warm up the formula in a hot water bath, the coconut oil will liquify and you can shake it up. The oils are the biggest bugaboo, honestly, of this formula, and if they don't work well for you, you can omit them and it won't be the end of the world nutritionally :)

Any questions or comments are much appreciated, although I will NOT be debating the issue of feeding raw goat milk to a baby, for it is a real, nourishing alternative to the limited, nasty canned formula options on the market, which are laden which ultra-high temperature processed, denatured milk with a myriad of refined corn and soy oils, with corn syrup added. This stuff is not food. Wet nurses were not an option for me, and neither was starvation. This is what worked, and worked amazingly well!

122 comments:

pamelaknits said...

Just read your Goat Milk Formula Recipe. Thought I would tell you about my experience. I'm a grandmother now and raised 6 children. While nursing our 4th sometime during his 3rd month my milk must have started decreasing and decreased so much that our son started loosing weight and then my milk suddenly just stopped. We went and got goats milk from a gentlemen we knew and using straight goats milk and adding black strap mollassed with it he filled out fast and was a thriving chubby little boy before long. Today he's tall and healthy and will be turning 28 this summer!

Kelly the Kitchen Kop said...

Pamela, what a cool testimony!

Carrie, this recipe is going to help so many people!! I'm glad you posted it. I'm going to stumble it and add it to my baby care post. I have to say that this recipe looks more simpler than the one on the WAPF site, too. :)

Kelly

Jennifer B. said...

Hey Carrie... been lurking on your site for awhile.. really love it... I am feeding my daughter a version of the goats milk formula... she fell a couple percentiles when she got sick this year. I've noticed either the lactose or nutritional yeast is contributing to nasal congestion. She is 13 months now and was on commercial formula for her first 10 months with a little breast milk... At her age do you know if the sugars are still necessary (I know that most people have their toddlers on just whole milk).

Thank you!

Jillbert said...

I'll bet this taste a whole lot better than formula, too! I'm curious about why the goat milk is diluted? And at what point can you switch to just straight milk (no additives, no dilution, etc).

Carrie @ OrganicThrifty said...

Pamela,

What a great testimony! Thank you so much for adding to this post!

Kelly,

Thanks so much forth encouragement and the link love! I sure hope this can help some!

Carrie

Carrie @ OrganicThrifty said...

Jennifer B,

Wow,what a saga! I can totally relate!

As for the sugars, I think that by 13 months it would mostly be for taste, provided that the carbs are coming from other food sources.

Keep me posted on how it goes!

Carrie

Carrie @ OrganicThrifty said...

Jillbert,

The goat milk formula does taste much better! My son sucked it down in about 5 minutes the first time!

The reason I dilute the goat milk is because it is so nutritent-dense that it can be difficult on the kidneys full strength.

As the baby gets older, the amount of water can be reduced. When the baby is over 12 months, he should be able to handle the goat milk full strength, as my son has!

Keep us posted!

Carrie

Brandy said...

Thank you for the recipe! I really could have used it with my third child, but we made do at the time with something similar but inferior.

For b. infantis, Natren now has a goat-milk based strand! It is a little more expensive than the cow strand, but it works great.

kefir grains man said...

once again, another great recipe to try out! thanks for sharing... however, it concerns me a little that you used raw milk.. have been hearing alot of news lately on it. in some states it is illegal to buy/sell raw cow's milk, is it the same for goat's milk? and anyone know why it's illegal in the first place? just wondering. : )

Dr.Rutledge said...

Hi Carrie,

Great post. Thanks for sharing the Goat Milk Formula recipe.

I'm a physician and former faculty member at Harvard and Stanford Medical Schools. I discovered your blog while looking for the best health writers on the web. I reviewed your posts, and think your writing would be a great addition to the Organic & Sustainable Community on Wellsphere, a top 5 health website that has nearly 5 million visitors monthly. If you would like to learn more about how you can join our Health Blogger Network, republish your blog posts and be featured on the Wellsphere platform, just drop me an email at dr.rutledge@wellsphere.com.

Cheers,
Geoff

Spoodles said...

Thanks so much for sharing your formula recipe! My friend has been using our goat milk for her son for the past month. She can't produce milk for some reason and he couldn't keep any formula down, not even the ultra gentle formula or whatever that's called... and she wasn't about to pump a bunch of estrogen mimicking soy into her son so... despite the Dr. saying she was in essence killing her child, she switched to all goat milk and he has made a total transformation. He's happy, rarely cries, and has regular, normal bowel movements. We were concerned with the difference in nutrients, though, so I'm so thankful I came across your blog.

Wow... that was a really long comment... sorry... :-)

Anneatheart said...

Hi there- so glad I found your 'testimony' about the formula. I started making the Nourishing Traditions cow's milk formula this week for my 1 month old daughter. My other three were raised on commercial formula, and while always healthy girls, I feel SO much better that this little one is getting a superior food. One thing though, diluting the formula with water is causing it to be too thin so that baby sucks it down so fast she chokes and gulps air. (yes with a slow flow nipple too) I'm wondering if I could cut back on the amount of water or up the amount of gelatin...Any ideas??s

Anonymous said...

Thank you for sharing this adapted recipie. I just wanted to let you know that Agave Nectar is not as good as many think. Because I can see that you follow Weston A Price I know you will appreciate the information that was put out on Agave Nectar last Spring. You can find it on their web-site as well as on Dr. Mercola's web-site. They report that Agve Nectar is worse than High Fructose Corn Syrup.

Anonymous said...

Can you add a bit of detail about liquid whey? I'm not sure what you mean about straining - strain through what? To get what consistency?

Thanks.

lachicaamiga55 said...

I have been giving my baby raw goats milk since she was 2 months old thanks to my ND doctor! but she isnt gaining weight so i am going to try your recipe.. thank you! but i have a question on the liver. the liver is the organ that detoxes your body so it is full of toxins. so do you think its healthy to eat. ive heard both good and bad.. whats your thoughts thank you

Brandi said...

Hello. I am thinking of giving this formula to my 7 month old daughter once per week while she is with a sitter. Would it be necessary for me to use all of the ingredients you listed? Or could I just use diluted raw goat milk, molasses, coconut oil, whey and agave which is what I have on hand. Since it's only one feeding per week, I thought it might be ok.

Anonymous said...

I'm making a version of this formula for our infant daughter. I had been using pasturized goats milk until this week. I found a good source of raw goats milk, but almost every bottle that I've warmed for her to eat is curding. Has anyone else had this issue? Is it something I should worry about, and how do I avoid it? I have used several methods of warming including immersing her bottle in warm tap water and it still happens. Please help.

Carrie @ OrganicThrifty said...

Hi everyone,

I'm so sorry for the lack of replies to these comments! I'm seldom over "here", but at my new site, www.organicthrifty.com. Soon I'll have everything forwarded over....

In the meantime, please feel free to e-mail me your questions personally: carrie [at] organicthrifty [dot] com and I will reply promptly and personally!

As for the most recent comment regarding curdling: what kind of whey are you using? That often makes a big difference. If you are using whey from cheesemaking, even the slightest bit of warming seems to make it curdle. I haven't had any problem with curdling using whey from kefir or yogurt....

Hope that helps. Feel free to e-mail me for more details!

Best,

Carrie

Tressa said...

Just read about your goat's milk recipe and I have a question as we are just at the beginning stages of having to switch my grandson Elijah to it (possibly). Where do you get fresh raw goats milk if you dont have a goat???

jennjenn said...

Hi, thank you for posting your recipe. I am feeding my 2.5 month old daughter a similar goat milk receipe which she loves and has reduced her spitting up and fussiness quite a bit. But she is having a problem with constipation ( which she also had with Similac and a low iron similac that we tried) She will not drink the formula if I put molases in it so that isn't an option, we have tried apple and pear juice but that seems to cause an upset tummy plus it just isn't great for her. Do you have any suggestions? She is in a lot of pain when she moves her bowels and makes this aweful screaching sound, plus there is a little blood in her stool. Please help

Carrie @ OrganicThrifty said...

Jennjenn,

I'm sorry your daughter is constipated!!! I have a lot of thoughts on this, but I would like to know a little more about the exact formula you're giving her, and your daughter's history. Where there any antibiotics given at birth/during labor? Did she get any breastmilk ever? Do you have any known allergies?

You can e-mail me privately at:

carrie [at] organicthrifty [dot] com and we can correspond in-depth about this!

I look forward to hearing from you,

{hugs}

Carrie

Carrie @ OrganicThrifty said...

Tressa,

I'm so sorry for the delay in response; I miss comments on here sometimes because this is my "old" website!

If you cannot get fresh raw goat's milk, you can use Meyenberg pasteurized goat's milk. If you have kefir grains, you can culture the milk for about 12 hours just to add some good bacteria and enzymes back in. Meyenberg is available at most major grocery stores, even Trader Joe's carries a brand of pasteurized goat mik!

Good luck!

Carrie

buy viagra said...

Goat milk is more nutritious than cow's only that it is a little more expensive, but worth paying the difference.

Rachel said...

Hi Carrie,
Just stumbled onto your site today and I'm glad I did. I've been giving straight goats milk to my son for about 3 months now coupled with the breast milk that I still produce, which is about 3-4 oz. per feeding. So, he gets to nurse first and then he gets about 4 oz. of raw goats milk afterward. His stools have been normal and we've had no problems at all. There's a great goat's farm that we get the milk from and we are so thankful that he likes it, since he wouldn't take commercial formula, which I didn't want to give him anyway. I just wanted to get your opinion on what we are doing, really. I have added a solid meal once a day which includes a super green veggie, mainly broccoli, a vitamin A veggie every other day and we're about to add egg yolk every other day soon. Are these enough to supplement the vitamins that are not found in the goats milk? Also, his weight gain was an issue at the beginning of his life because of my low production, but since he's been on the goat's milk he's a happy, healthy, 20 lb. 8 and 1/2 month old!

Thanks again!

punkirebel said...
This comment has been removed by the author.
Bean Most said...

Im so glad that Johnathan was able to pull through!

I made a half-batch with cow kefir whey, natren dairy probiotic, raw goat milk, water, and gelatin just to test his reaction. I put a 1/2 ounce in his normal bottle. On one bottle he spit up 2 oz's or so and he wasn't feeding well prior to that.

Does using Natren's goat probiotic and whey made from goat make a difference?

Teralyn said...

I came across your recipe about a month ago. My daughter was two and a half months old at the time, and I had tried everything to increase my milk supply, and it just wasn't enough for her to grow and strive on. My daughter has a very sensitive tummy, and was not reacting to any of the formulas I had tried. I had read that goats milk was the closest thing to mothers breast milk, so I began giving her straight goats milk, it was working well but after a week started to make her constipated. So that is when I started doing more reaserch with my dad and came across your wonderful and life saving recipe!! I have been supplimenting her with this organic goats milk formula for over a month and she is growing and her tummy is happy! You and your blog really helped me and my baby out! Thank you for sharing, and I will be recomending this to other mothers! My daughter is now a healthy weight and loves her milk :)

Carrie @ OrganicThrifty said...

Teralyn,

Oh, bless you! I'm SO SO glad this was able to help you! It was such a life saver for us! I am working on putting together an entire website dedicated to this subject so stay tuned!

Enjoy that sweet baby!

Carrie

Anonymous said...

Carrie,

We have been having feeding problems with our Baby since she was born she is three months. She has feeding difficulty due to cleft palate and could not breastfeed so we put her on formula. I have to say I am quite disgusted at the horrible ingredients. She was not doing well. She was loosing weight and started to look sunken in. She was becoming emaciated. It was so scary. I tried your formula. It has been about five days. She went from wanting to sleep rather than eat to wanting to eat all the time!!!! I can't keep up! She already looks better. She used to be covered in sweat droplets all day. Now her complexion is perfect and no sweat. I am so impressed with what has happened already. Thank you so much for saving my baby!

P.S. I have been using pasturized goats milk :( I cant find raw milk anywhere. Can you post more info on using kefir granules. I need help with that. Don't quite know what to do.

Carrie @ OrganicThrifty said...

Anonymous,

Wow, what an incredible story!!! I'm so glad to hear of it. Goat's milk is such a life-giving food! Our journey has actually lead us to keeping diary goats ourselves, and it has been a daily blessing to have fresh raw milk every day!

If you can't, of course, then you can purchase a kefir grain from Cultures for Health (click on the "Resources" Tab above! I highly recommend them!!!)

I hope her progress continues to improve! Bless you for your sacrifice of love to prepare the formula for her daily!

Carrie
P.S. This is my old blog, feel free to pop over to my new site, at www.organicthrifty.com :)

katty said...

All the properties of the milk are really important not only for the children but the adult too. The milk contain many vitamin, potassium, calcium and iron.This kind of properties is needed for the people.

buy viagra

katty said...

All the properties of the milk are really important not only for the children but the adult too. The milk contain many vitamin, potassium, calcium and iron.This kind of properties is needed for the people.

buy viagra

Anonymous said...

Thank you for this! I was making a recipe similar to this for my 3 month old (adopted). I asked my midwife about the recipe, and she said she had concerns that it wouldn't have enough calories in it because it's diluted 2 cups of milk with 2 cups of water. I was thinking about trying it again but just doing 1 cup of water. What are your opinions on it? We have been doing the yucky powdered stuff, but after hearing about the beetle larvae being found inside the similac (http://www-15.similac.com/recall/default.aspx) and the recall on that, I am once again going to do the goats milk.

ali said...

I was anonymous. I wanted to leave my info behind!

Ali

(from Oregon)

www.mygodgivenmissionfield.com
weetelfers@gmail.com

Carrie @ OrganicThrifty said...

Hi Ali!

Great to hear from you! I chose to dilute the goat's milk at the younger ages because of concerns that it could be too hard on the kidneys. My son, and many, many other children who are using this recipe have bulked up quite nicely on the formula as is!

You are welcome to experiment, but do watch your baby's stools and see. If they seem to hard, you will want to dilute it. Keep me posted!

Carrie

Megan said...

I was wondering if you could tell me an adaptation using the meyenburg powdered goat's milk. Would I make up the recommended amount on the can and still add the water in the recipe?

gratefulmg said...

Would i need to add all this still if my 6mo old is eating purees, broths, and iron-fortified cereals enough to get his other nutrients from?? He's been on formula for 3mos. now and has never quite adjusted to it right so we are switching to raw goat's milk ths week and i'd love to find out everythind i can before then...thanks so much

gratefulmg said...

Hi..I'm gratefulmg that just posted a minute ago.....if you can give me any extra info my email is gratefulmg@yahoo.com It'd be very much appreciated by my son.....thanks again for your time and recipe

elliesma said...

Hi!! thank you so much for sharing this with all of us. My 3 month old baby girl has been on goat milk for a month and i have been making it into your formula recipe for the past 3 weeks. It's working so well!!! I have one question: how do i "strain" goat yogurt to get whey? Just want to make sure i am doing it right. The yogurt i purchased is fairly thick.

Anonymous said...

Thank you for this great recipe. I have raised one son on goat milk from the age of 2 weeks (as a supplement due to lack of breast milk).

At the time there was not a lot of information out there on recipes. But I did find one from a midwife.

The recipe then was diluted milk, molasses and cod liver oil, with a touch of nutritional yeast. Your recipe is much more comprehensive.

For the earlier poster that stated that their child was getting constipated on the powdered milk, I added a little prune juice and that took care of the problem, plus adds lots of good vitamins. This was recommended but our pediatrician at the time.

One to second son (firs son is almost 4), now 6 weeks old, he has been on the Goat milk a supplement since he was 3.5 weeks old and has been doing just great.

Question about the Agave as the new research suggests it is not that great for you.

What would you think about Maple Syrup as it is a whole food?

Lauren said...

Hi,
I've been using this formula with my 3 month old son for about a month. Before following the recipe I was simply diluting the raw goat milk. As soon as I added other ingredients to the milk I noticed that my son's urine began to smell very strong. Is this normal? Do you have any ideas what might be causing this? He isn't running a temperature and seems to be happy. Thanks for your help.

Barbra said...

Awesome! My son thrived on a similar recipe, he is now almost three and still loves goat milk. My mother raised my sister and I on the same recipe! I'm so happy to find other supportive mamas doing the same thing. A lot of my fellow mom friends were very put off by my homemade formula and I even lost a friend over it. Keep up the good work!

Crystal said...

I came across your post while searching for a raw alternative to baby formula that is made with goats milk. I was wondering if you have had any reports of adults using this for meal replacement and what their success was? I have celiacs disease and severe crohns disease and I am basically starving to death. This is my final attempt at holistically healing myself before I go under the knife and I thought if I could drink a highly digestible non-dairy non-soy raw goat infant formula I might actually be able to absorb it without causing a flare up. Any reports?

Carrie @ OrganicThrifty said...

Hi Crystal,

Interesting question! I am not specifically aware of adults using the raw goat's milk formula, although I know there are studies showing the health benefits of raw milk for Chron's disease. I would think that this would be an excellent idea, unless your gut is so highly sensitive that goat's milk would trigger a reaction. I'd be interested to know what else you have tried, because I can think of at least 3 or 4 other types of "elemental diets" that you could also consider that are even more hypo-allergenic.

I am a Holistic Nutritionist and work with many clients on gut repair, which we find is the basis for healing both celiac and chron's. If you would like to privately contact me, my email is carriethienes (at) nwholisticnutrition (dot) com.

Blessings to you on your healing journey.

Anonymous said...

Crystal-
I saw your post and had to leave a comment to you! I JUST finished reading a book by Jordan Rubin for kids about health and wellness and his testimony is not only surviving Crohn's, but flourishing! He has a myriad of books- The Maker's Diet,The Great Physicians RX for Health and Wellness, to name a couple. He carefully spells out a lot, if not all of, what he did in order to get better. You can browse the basics of his books at biblicalhealthinstitute.com. Whether you are in line with his beliefs or not, it sounds like he's doing great and he's helped many others improve their health.

Anonymous said...

Hi,
I just got some raw goat milk and am super excited to try your recipe. I was wondering, how long does raw goat milk last in the fridge? Also, my daughter likes her bottles warm. What if I make the recipe minus the water and then add the water warmed up when I make her a bottle? Is the cod liver for the dha/epa part? Can I use a fish oil, like Nordic Naturals liquid fish oil? I work at the Vitamin Cottage, so I have most of the things listed, except a few items. Thank you for posting this, it is really simple and it seems like the different items used would go far. Thank you and have a great day.
Sincerely,
Christa and Lilly

Amanda Fowler said...

Day two on this goats milk formula! I'm hoping this will be the answer for us. For reasons beyond my control I'm unable to breastfeed. (Very devestating to me!) And my son can't seem to tollerate cows milk, soy OR the hypoallergenic formulas. (as his older brother (Peyton)never could, but I never found a solution for him, never thought of goats milk and of course the doctors only recommend formulas! So he just suffered until he was 11 months and we quit milk entirely)If this works for my new baby (Elijah) I'm going to feel soooooo bad for not doing it for Peyton! I love the idea of making my own formula! So much better then those yucky store bought formulas. I've got a couple of questions..as of now I didn't add any whey, because I couldn't find kefir or goat yogurt. I think I can get my health food store to order it for me, but does it have to be plain yogurt with nothing added? Do they make it that way?? And I can not stand the smell of the nurtitional yeast! I just bought the brand my hfs had in stock. Do they all smell the same? Is their something else I can use? It actually almost makes me gag! And he reeks of it. His breath, his poop, his clothes! Of course I can learn to live with it if it's my only option! Also did you supplement with folic acid and b12? I'd like to know what each ingredient is for if you know yourself!

Anonymous said...

Amanda,
I know that brewers yeast has folic acid in it, the agave is for the carbs (sugars), all the oils are all the different oils for the skin,hair,joints and so on. your omegas. Cod Liver oil is for the DHA and ARA. Black strap Molasses has a lot of the b vitamins as well. The kefir is probably for the pro and prebiotics, good for the gut and immune system. That's all that I know and could think of. How does your husband feel about the raw goat milk or are you using the pasteurized? Just curious? My husband is sort of freaked out about the raw stuff, because of something that some one told us. Well good luck with everything.
Christa

Amanda Fowler said...

Christa, thanks for the info! No dh is okay with raw milk! Donor Breastmilk would freak him out I'm sure though. If all goes well I'd like to get our own goat! Just thought I'd tell all of you, I just created a group on baby center for homemade formula makers! I thought it would be helpful if there was a group for people like us! I only have 1 member other then me so far, probably wont be a hugely popular group haha, but maybe it will help someone. Here is the link.. http://community.babycenter.com/groups/a6726739/homemade_baby_formula

Anonymous said...

i'm going out to get the stuff to make this formula today; thank you so much for posting this; my question is can i use an organic powdered goats milk? does it have the same nutrients?

AmyK said...

Thankyou so much for this recipe; I am so happy to get away from the store formulas with all the aluminum and bad processed stuff in them. I was using an organic formula, but i feel it was full of crap too; they get the omegas from fungus grown in a lab;
I made my first batch today with a few adjustments i'd like to go over with you and get your opinion on.
First, i used standard cows milk with the cream on the top; its a good milk i get in glass jars from a nice little dairy; it is pasturized, but it is full fat and not homogonized, and they don't use hormones or antibiotics, and it is stored and pasturized in stainless steel vats, not aluminum;
Im using kefir, not whey; and i did not use the raw agave, because I feel the processing in this product is actually really bad, so i just omitted that ingredient; Do you think i should use the brown rice syrup, or can i just leave it out?
Lastly, instead of amla or acerola powder, i used Camu C; what do you think, is that ok?
My little girl is 8 months, and she just loved it, and i feel so good knowing it is better for her; thank you again!

Anonymous said...

Amanda,
Thanks for the link, I think I have seen that web site, I can't remember if that is the one I set up and account for or if it was a different one. That;s good he doesn't mind. I found such a good supply that I really want to do it. Well I hope Carrie get's back to us soon. Take care.
Christa

Sally said...

wondering about the coconut oil. it is solid at whole foods. how does that work?

Sally said...

also does brewers yeast work? i have tons of that from when i was working on my supply.

Carrie @ OrganicThrifty said...

@Christa,

I am so sorry for the delay in responding! Hugs to you and your sweet little one. Yes, you can totally use all of those ingredients that you mentioned! Lucky you for working at the Vitamin Cottage! And thanks for answering Amanda's questions!

@Anonymous:

You can use powdered, if that's all that you have access to :)

In general, you can subsitute any of the whole food ingredients for a liquid vitamin, if desired. This is especially helpful for the folic acid and B12, especially if you don't want to add raw goat's liver (as I didn't!)

Carrie @ OrganicThrifty said...

Amanda:

As for whey,it needs to come from plain yogurt, but it's cheaper if you can make your own kefir (you can get a grain at www.culturesforhealth.com).

Also, I like Lewis Labs Brewer's Yeast, it's very high in nutrients and has no artificial ingredients in it, but if you find it too intense, you can totally leave it out.

I hope this answers your questions but let me know if you have more!!!

Keep up the great work, all you moms!!!

Carrie @ OrganicThrifty said...

@AmyK,

That sounds great. I agree with you about the agave, and think that perhaps a little maple syrup would be much better. But if she enjoys it without the added sugars, that's probably fine too. You might want to find a way to add in a lactase enzyme if you are using pasteurized milk, but if she seems okay digestion-wise, then you might be fine without it. It's the enzyme factor (among other things) that make the raw milk ideal ;)

Keep up the great work!

Anonymous said...

Carrie,
So I found a good source for raw goat milk. The only thing is my little lady is constipated, she is having a hard time going. I think I might stop for a while and see if that helps. She is even teething and that usually makes them have diarrhea. So I am not sure. Maybe it's just not for her. Everyone is different. Thanks for responding and encouraging us, take care!
Christa and Lilly

Levitra Generico said...

Nice post!! Thanks for sharing!

Martha Levie said...

Wow, this is so wonderful! I am in the process of weaning my 9 month old so that we can have another baby. She has been drinking goat milk during the day and the I nurse her at night. Now I'm concerned that she is getting overloaded and under nourished since the goat mik has not been diluted or had anything added to it. So this is my question, how long do I keep her drinking this recipe and do I stop diluting the milk, as she gets older? What a wonderful site, thank you so much!

Anonymous said...

Out at library and just found you. Please e-mail me amy7902@yahoo.com
I am a Registered Nurse and work with women who have stopped breast feeding for various reasons and we use to recommend goats milk but some docs don't anymore. Would love to help more mom's by educating the MD's. Thanks,
Amy L. Blazewick, RN
645 Bordentown Road
Burlington, NJ 08016-1923

Anonymous said...

Hi. I was wondering if its okay to freeze this recipe?
And also, how long can I keep a batch in the fridge?

Kristina said...

My little girl is 11 wks old and has an extremely sensitive tummy. Goats milk has been the only thing she can tolerate. The only thing I have added to it at this point is brown rice syrup. I also give her multi-vitamin and probiotic daily. I decided to add in the ingredients to this formula one at a time, and she had trouble with the molasses. Lots of tummy pain after just the first feeding with it. Should I just forget it? I really want to use it because of its nutrients. Maybe just use half of what the recipe calls for and slowly add more? Anyone else had this problem?
Thanks!
Kristina

Anonymous said...

I just found your recipe and am very interested in using it. I have two adopted special needs toddlers that are gtube fed. I have goats and we all use their wonderful, raw milk and kefir that I make daily. Since they are gtube babies, do they need the sugars (is that for flavor only)? Can you tell me the calorie/ounce. Both came to me with failure to thrive. One is on track now, but the other is still underweight, with serious tummy troubles. We have tried almost every formula, including the predigested ones. None are great for her. She also has kidney issues, so I definitely do not want to overload her kidneys (she is slmost three, but more like a 1 year old developmentally. They do see a GI specialist, but I am hesitant to approach her with trying something that is so far from what they want. I am a nurse, but still need guidance from a nutritionist for these matters. I am an old hippie, so hate to give these little ones this processed formula. I know that my little guy would do well, he seems to do well on whatever goes through that gtube, but my little girl is very sensitive. I have given her plain (raw) goat's milk with good results, but know she needs more. I am glad I came across this blog and appreciate the information.

Carrie Thienes, NTP said...

Anonymous,

Feel free to e-mail me at carriethienes [at] nwholisticnutrition [dot] com and I can address your needs specifically! I need to do some figuring and then will post the calorie count as well. Thanks for the note, and I look forward to hearing from you!

Jennie said...

Hi there!
Thank you for the recipe, we have been trying it with our newborn as a supplement (I am still breastfeeding but run a business so once and awhile I need my husband to give her a feeding)...however, although she loves the formula she can't seem to keep it down. She ends up throwing up, but she's not sick from it. Is there something i'm doing wrong or can try? I REALLY don't want to go to cow's milk anything (other daughter has numerous problems from that) OR store formula. Thanks

Canadian Sunshine said...

THANK YOU for this light in the darkness! I was staring down the barrel of a can of similac last night in horror that I might have to resort to artificial food for my child. (I have had to return to work early as my employment insurance parental leave ran out early.) I drink goat's milk myself (usually commercial grade, whatever I can find in the supermarket, occassinally I can afford the organic). I will definitely be trying this recipe instead, and throwing away the open (and, god willing, never to be used) can of formula... it's a shame I didn't see this first as the can was earmarked for our local foodbank.

Anonymous said...

WOW!! Wonderful article! I learned about goats milk over 30 years ago. Our third child was severely colic. My husband meet someone with a goat and brought a jar of milk home. I called our Dr and he said if it would make me feel better I could pasteurize it. From that I understood that the milk was "clean'. I did pasteurize the milk. After the first 1/2 bottle of g milk our 2 month old son opened his eyes ... I had never seen his eyes after nursing him ... he just cried. Needless to say we bought that very goat next day. I made goat ice cream, goat cottage cheese, goat cheese spread ( the consistency of cheese whiz but much better flavour) goat Perogies, etc. The colic baby grew into a healthy 6 foot 4 inch man! Thanks to Amy … the goat! Thanks for you goat milk formula … it will help so many moms to have happy, healthy babies & children!

Momma Kate said...

I have just started my two month old son on the goat milk formula. However, I am concerned with the high levels of Vitamin A in the cod liver oil. I was thinking of substituting this with flax seed oil and Vitamin D baby drops. Have you heard of anyone else doing this? Would you recommend it or do you have any other ideas? Thanks!

Anonymous said...

DO you have to use glass bottles?? We only have plastic ones, BPA free ones. I'm concerned, will it go bad in plastic?? And we run the bottle under hot water to warm it, that should be fine shouldn't it? I'm sorry if I sound stupid, this is the first batch I've ever made, our son is 4 weeks old and he seems to not be getting satisfied so we actually just ended up feeding him 6oz in one sitting...does this sound strange? Or pretty normal??

Aimee & Josh Jensen said...

my baby is 7 almost 8 months....can i just use diluted goats milk or do i need all the other added stuff???

helema said...

I used the organic evaporated goats milk from a can (its really hard to get raw goats milk here due to regulations and limited space to keep a milking goat). My milk was not helping my son and he hated formula so i mixed 4 cans of it with 2 cans of filtered water and 2 caps of flavored cod live roil. It was naturally flavored with berries and helped mask the cod liver oils taste. He was eating alot of other things sence he was 8 months along. He would suck it down like no tomorrow where he actually threw the bottle if we tried formula!! Within a couple month she had plumped up so much that he went from being considered severely underweight to overweight. ones he got active it panned out. So, goats milk does work for the underweight babies. He is on hormone free cows milk now (goats milk is out of reach price wise now) and very happy and energetic! Sites like yours help women to choose better alternatives for their babies. Thank you for posting the info.

ewagaman said...

Help! I just put my 6 week old daughter on the Weston Price homemade formula, but am substituting raw goat's milk for the cow's milk(with their recommended modifications). Now she is horribly constipated and I am torn what to do. We switched to the homemade formula from Similac b/c of thrush and I'm trying to avoid sweeteners b/c I don't want to feed the yeast. Since she's been on the goat's milk formula, the yeast has cleared up! Yay! Now, the constipation...argh! Help, please.

Maris said...

Just wanted to post a quick comment...my newest little one was born 11 1/2lbs. I had bought an organic formula from the states(as I live in Ontario)hexane free, but he was very constipated. I then added half goodstart. My naturalpath tested him due to his colic like symptoms and he was full of pestcides from the good start formula, she then recommended goats milk (she is german). After doing some research I came across this recipe for formula. I talked with a local goat farmer and was granted raw goats milk, then started making my own....WOW!!! It is amazing...he is now 4mnths old weighs about 17 1/2lbs (has to wear 12mnth clothing). He is so smart it is crazy and I can compare because I also have a 7yr old and a 3yr old who are very intelligent little girls. His dry skin cleared up, he has no constipation issues, he is very happy and thriving beyond my expectations. I wish I had known about it for my girls. This was the best thing I have ever done for my little one.

Carrie @ OrganicThrifty said...

Maris,

What an awesome testimony! Thank you so much for sharing your story. I am thrilled to hear that your little one is doing so well!!!!

Blessings,
Carrie Thienes, BS, MA, NTP
NW Holistic Nutrition
www.nwholisticnutrition.com

Carrie @ OrganicThrifty said...

Anonymous,

So sorry I missed these comments! Glass is best, but BPA free is fine too!

Aimee,

I would add the extra "stuff" for the 8 month old. These days, the more fortified nutrition, the better. I actually am recommending my clients who are babies to stay on this until 18 months of age to ensure optimal nutrition!

Best,
Carrie

Carrie @ OrganicThrifty said...

For Constipation:

You might want to consider diluting the formula just a little bit with more water. Goat's milk differs by concentration depending upon the goat's breed and variety. Oftentimes constipation indicates too much solute and not enough liquid, so adding more water usually does the trick.

Some clients have found adding prune juice to be slightly helpful.

I would also suggest looking into added magnesium citrate supplementation.

Please contact me if you want to talk further!

www.nwholisticnutrition.com

Hope that helps!
Carrie

The Eco Mum said...

I read this post back in June 2011 when my little girl was showing signs of cows milk intolerance.
We went with it but over time have amended it because any liquid multi vitamins or synthetic stuff made her gummed up.

We now do (in 1 baby bottle) 1/3 bottle of Stinging Nettle infusion (which covers most of the vitamins & nearly all minerals needed for bubbas) and 1/3 goats milk kefir and then 1/3 coconut water kefir.

She gets all the benefits of coconut water & goats milk and the added benefit of the beneficial bacteria in them. We add flaxseed oil, probiotics and that's it :)

She's thriving and was muscle tested by a Kinesiologist recently & its perfect for her.

YAY! She's been on it 8 months now... Thankyou for inspiring this path because I was a bit scared to do homemade formula - now I tell EVERYONE about it! In fact I just did that today on here: www.facebook.com/TheEcoMum

Thankyou again from Australia :)

Anonymous said...

My daughter is 19 weeks old and we have started supplementing her with diluted goat's milk and a multivitamin. I'd like to start adding in the whole food ingredients slowly, starting with a sweetener for carbs. I don't want to use lactose for the same reason you didn't, but am not sure which sweetener is the easiest on baby's digestive systems -- agave, maple or brown rice syrup? She's not a picky eater so I am not concerned about taste preferences or sugar addiction -- my only concern is finding one that her stomach can tolerate. I'd love to hear your thoughts on this!

Kate said...

If anyone is having trouble with the coconut oil, here's what worked for me. Just make the formula without it, pour the individual bottles, and add about 1/4 tsp coconut oil to each bottle (if baby is eating 6-8 times a day). That way, once each bottle is heated, the oil will liquify and will be evenly distributed.

Cialis said...

Thank your for this great recipe!

Anonymous said...

Thanks for your recipe. I was initially overwhelmed with the recipe on WAPF due to lack of sleep and taking care of a newborn with not enough breast milk. I have my 2.5 month old on the goat milk formula and he is doing great! He will have doubled his birth weight by 3 months on this formula and was born at 8.5 pounds. Initially I did not add the whey. I am adding it now and it is helping him to have 2 bowl movements most days instead of 1 and they are softer. I was initially concerned that they were too hard before the whey so I really had to be careful to put enough water. I make the whey from raw goat milk as suggested on WAPF. With the addition of the whey, it makes the formula get stinky in as little as 5 hours. I once had to throw some milk out that had only sat in the fridge overnight. It was so stinky my son was only chewing the bottle instead of drinking his milk. Since then, I have been adding the whey to the individual bottle just before serving. Has anyone else had this problem and how did you fix it?
I give him the Green Pastures cod liver oil separately off of a baby spoon because when it was in the bottle it stayed there until the end and then he would choke and gag on it. He is tolerating it better now but at first he would gag and cry and even refuse the next bottle for fear there may be more in there. I am going to keep on trying though since it is really healthy per WAPF. My 2 year old actually loves the straight unflavored cod liver oil!
I first talked to a chiropractor’s wife who used a goat milk formula. She added 1 tsp chlorophyll and aloe vera juice. I add this as well since they are both really healthy. I add about 1 ounce of the aloe vera per 32 ounce batch. Although the chlorophyll does make the milk green.

Laurie R said...
This comment has been removed by the author.
Carrie @ OrganicThrifty said...

Hi Laurie,

I saw that you removed your comment, but I just wanted to say that it is normal when babies start the formula to drink a LOT as they are catching up on their nutrient intake. Feel free to pmail me with specifics at
'carriethienes [at] nwholisticnutrition [dot] com'. Best wishes!

Carrie

Anonymous said...

I have been wondering if the formula needs to be more iron enriched? (I know all generic formulas are) I try not to over use the molasses because his stools become runny but he seems to have 'restless legs' at night. (my husband has restless legs and has to take vitmans for this condition) do you know of anything I could add to help?
Thanks a bunch
Michelle

Michelle said...

** Also my baby is almost 11 months old

Julia said...

Thanks SO MUCH for sharing your recipe and your experience! We have a 29-week preemie that I was able to breastfeed 100% his first three months, but my supply has since fallen way short of his demand. He hates the organic formula we've tried to give him and I'm excited to try the WAPF raw goat's milk formula.

A few questions:

1. With all the strong warnings about "solids" causing problems for babies under 4-6 months, do you know why the added ingredients don't cause those problems (later food allergies, etc.)?

2. Is there an age that is too young to give them this? My baby, for example, is a 29-week preemie. Although he's technically almost 4 months old, he's really only a month old based on his due date/gestational age (therefore he's physically the equivalent of a one-month-old). Is that too young to give him this recipe?

3. Our NICU nutritionist told us that we "had" to supplement my breast milk with extra preemie-specific formula because she said preemies need extra minerals and protein to help with bone growth. I may dilute slightly less to boost the protein content, but any thoughts on adding extra minerals? e.g., we have some magnesium powder that we thought might be a sensible addition.

4. Any thoughts on coconut water to replace part or all of the water? Coconut water is supposedly good for babies' electrolyte balance and we thought it might be a logical substitute. Would love to hear your thoughts.

Thanks again; we're so excited to try this!!

Isabel said...

Carrie,

Thank you SO much for all the wonderful information you provide here! I'm going through a very similar situation as yours with my 3-mth old baby. I was also unable to BF very long for a number of health reasons and it was very devastating to me (but that's another story!). Our baby was diagnosed with MSPI (so not an allergy but an intollerance to milk and soy protein) as was our first one. My LO is currently on a hypoallergenic formula which worked for our first but hasn't worked at all for our second. She's had horrible reflux, colic and goes from being constipated to having runny stools back and forth. I do not want to continue using formulas loaded with chemicals that are making her sicker and thankfully our wonderful pedi GI has also suggested goat's milk formula. I have a few questions. How did you introduce the raw milk to your LO? From your testimony it seems like you first gave it to him straight up without dilluting and then moved onto the actual formula. Do you suggest mixing a little bit with her current formula and slowly increasing the amount to get her body used to it or switching straight to it instead? Also, some recipes call for baby probiotics but isn't raw milk already loaded with good enzymes and probiotics? Is the whey necessary as well? We do have access to very good Grade A raw goat milk from local farms so I'm really hoping that this will be the answer to our prayers as we are at our witts end. Sorry for the long post! Blessings to you and your family!

A very happy woman said...

My baby is now 14 months old. I wasn't able to breastfeed and the commercial formulas were wreaking havoc with his intestines. So looking into all the options I came across your blog post, this one. THANKS SO MUCH!!! I still adapted mine a bit for my needs, but I was so happy to find this. My son thrived on it and he's still drinking it happily now from a sippy cup. He's a tall boy and has a lot of teeth (he's getting his top 1st molars, already has his bottom ones and is getting his bottom canines). It's amazing!!! When he drinks a lot of it I know he's getting what closer to breastmilk than anything else (especially commercial fake milk). He's been sick 3 times in the entire time, because of the cold outside, one time getting wet at the park and the other one getting cold in his room. No allergies, no ear infections, no stomach upsets. Even him getting sick those 3 times were mainly stuffy nose. So I'm really really happy with this post and every time someone asks me about making baby formula I send them your link along with WAPF, so they know their options. THANKS AGAIN!!! And i hope you can keep this blogpost up to help many other moms out there. :D

Anonymous said...

I am breast feeding now and I have a hard time pumping. I do not get very much when I pump but my son is growing great just from nursing him. I want to make this recipe for my husband to give two days a week when I go back to work. I was wondering if I could freeze this in batches? He will only need it for 8 hours twice a week. Please help me figure this out. Thanks, Christina

Anonymous said...

I've read through a lot of posts but I was just wondering if anyone has done a cost comparison to commercial formula? How long does one batch last for a 6 1/2 month old? And how does this compare to the cost of one $30 can of formula that lasts for about a week or so. I'm just trying to figure out if I can afford to try this formula...I would really love to but need to watch out for costs as well! Thanks :)

Anonymous said...

I just started using this formula after my baby suffered from ongoing phlegm and congestion. His symptoms cleared up immediately and must have been a reaction to the cow milk based formula. He loves this formula and so do I! The only thing is that we will be traveling internationally for a week next month. I am wondering if it is safe to mix all the ingredients except the goat milk and whey to transport them instead of having to bring 12 different bottles. Thanks for such a great recipe!

Lacie Baker said...

Cows naturally carry e-coli. That is why it is illegal in many states to sell raw cows milk and also why restaurants must post a warning on their menus if they sell beef cooked at any temperature less than 160°F. If you want to safely ingest raw cows milk you have to boil it which, just like goats milk, makes it less nutritional by killing much of the vitamins and minerals with the heat necessary to make it safe for consumption

Anonymous said...

@Lacie, if you have a clean source for your milk Raw is perfect and best! We only drink raw milk and we are fine. My baby has had raw milk since she was 7 wks and she is thriving and not having issues as those being fed that chemical soup they call formula. It is all about the money, that's why it is illegal. How many times has formula, drugs, and peanut butter been recalled? TONS. Yet you still see them on store shelves. WHY? Because they can not afford to lose the dollar bills. They could care less about us.

Bret Rosenzweig said...

thank you so much for this recipe. Our boy is evidently lactose and soy intolerant... his diaper rash was getting wicked bad and we had tried all brands of formula. Your goat milk mixture has him very happy, sleeping through the night, regular movements, no diaper rash,....happy parents.We were able to find all the ingredients at our local health food store.

gail said...

I have been giving my 8 month old baby canned goats milk for abput a month now, i mix oatmeal cereal and some jar fruit in it, hes a reflux baby and it has gotten so much better now, no more medication and he was ftt so bad that they almost put a g-tube in but he is now gaining some weight..the problem i am running into is hes pooping after every bottle..they are mushy but thinking he shouldnt be going that much..you might think its the friut i put in his bottles but have been doing it for 6 months now..only way he will drink a bottle.. he didnt go like that when he was on the elecare..not sure what to do but he wont gain much weight going as much as he does..thank you

Bride to be said...

Could you explain how to strain yogurt?

Hiking Dancer said...

My 4.5 month old has been on this formula for over a week now after getting severe diarrhea from her organic soy formula. She drinks so much more and is gaining weight and vibrant. The diarrhea has subsided as well. My only question is that I noticed you don't add any cream to your formula. I want to stop putting cream in my baby's formula too because I get scared thinking that the cream might be spoiled since the recipe doesn't ask for much so I end up using the same bottle of cream for over a week. I might just be paranoid because my husband tastes the cream every night and he says it is fine. Anyway, do you really think the cream is necessary?

courtney said...

If you are unable to get raw goats milk. Is it best to use pasturized or powdered goats milk? Do you have any suggestions for when you are traveling? Did you bring ingredients with you and try to find goats milk where you went or did you use a subsitute?

I am making her formula right now with raw goats milk but my source wont get any in until wednesday. So not sure what is best to use in this case and traveling?

James J. said...

My wife is still breast feeding our 5 month old daughter but she's not producing enough milk to meet the baby's needs. We want to supplement with raw goats milk but without having to make this complex formula. Is there a ratio of breast milk to goats milk that you would recommend or do we need to add additional water? She typically drinks a 5-6 ounce bottle at her feedings. For now I'm mixing 2.5oz Breast milk with 2.5oz raw goat's milk and additional 1/4 tsp of probiotics in first bottle each day. I have also done 3oz breast milk to 2 oz goats milk per bottle. Should I change this formulation? Thoughts or recommendations? Thank you.

Anonymous said...

I just gave birth to my 7th child. A little girl. She is not even a week old yet. For some unknown reason, this time, my milk supply is hardly there. I run completely dry by evening. My mother-in-law recommended supplementing with goats milk and said that equal amounts of water and milk is what I should give her. Are there any reasons why I should not do it this way? With her being so new, would this affect her digestive system?

Anonymous said...

Hi Carrie my name is Ashley Mayhew I'm not very good at computers but I would love some advice if you could help me I did not know how to email you so that is why I'm replying on this post. Anyway my email address is Mayhew05@yahoo.com if you could email me some advice because I'm not sure if I could get back here to see if you replyed back. Okay so my LO is 4 months old he had a very ruff start I BF as long as I could he was having a reaction and was not gaining weight and was getting smaller so they wanted me to supplement with formula to get him to gain well that just made everything worse and with him getting smaller I didn't have time to switch formulas like the doctors wanted so I put him on raw goats milk immediatly I seen a huge change he got better and soon started gaining weight like crazy. However I never knew to dilute it as I seen in your post so for about 3 months he has got full strenght do you think this has harmed him??? I was adding black strap molasses and a natural max baby vitamin for & vitamins and topic acid the lady I get my milk from told me to add those but never said anything about diluting it. Now that I have come across this I have diluted it added the coconut oil and am still using the black strap molasses as well as the max baby vitamin. I haven't added anything else other then that some of the stuff I'm not sure where I would find it where I live? So I guess the advice I need is do you think he will be okay that he had full strength goats milk for 3 months and what I am adding now will that be okay till I find the other stuff to put in it.. Please if you could help ease my mind I have been worried since Ive read that it needed to be diluted..

Vanessa said...

Since I can't get my hands on raw goats milk, would culturing the milk make it a better

Anonymous said...

hiya. my baby is 4.5 months old now and absolutely vetoed the homemade goats milk formula last night. she spat, blew raspberries, fake gagged, pushed it away, etc for about 15 minutes to illustrate exactly what she thought of that bottle. ive had her on variations of it for the past few days. ALL the ones that include oils aggravate her reflux really bad. ive tried the dr sears version which she stomached better but still refused. plus i was worried about her nutrition as it only consists of goats milk, water, sugar, and multivitamins. to top it off she was really constipated with goats milk even after adding blackstrap molasses and probiotics :( id try a cows milk variation but im worried shes slightly sensitive to cows milk and id still have the issue with the oils.
We do not have access to any raw milk or farm fresh ingredients unfortunately. Trust me, I've tried.

shes a bit underweight, refusing bottles, has bad reflux, mild excema, chronic cough, sneezing and congestion, and a perpetual diaper rash. shes a very picky eater and has a sensitive stomach.

shes tried ALL the formulas here in the usa including nutramigen, alimentum, elecare, and neocate. she failed them miserably and actually does better with normal milk based formulas. im currently special ordering an organic formula from england that she takes better, but all the above symptoms are back. So, my question is, do you think the Dr. Sears version is safe? Do you know of any oil free substitutes for the oil ingredients? Thanks!

Stephanie McPherson said...

Hi Carrie,
I am looking for an alternative to Sunflower oil for Vit E. Any suggestions?

Alison said...

Thank you for this recipe! My baby is allergic to coconut oil (along with bovine dairy, avocado, banana, rice and other fun stuff). Could I just use three T of olive oil? or more of one of the other oils? Thanks!

watchmom3 said...

So glad to have found this blog! I have a 3 mo. old granddaughter who is blessed to be breastfed and thriving; just wondering when my daughter inlaw can start some solid foods to help keep her from waking at night? Also, what school did you choose to get your certification; my 18 yr old daughter is very interested. Thanks so much and I really appreciate all the super comments! God bless!

CATRYNA49 said...

I loved seeing this. It took me back 30-35 years ago when I was making raw goats milk formula for a couple of my babies. Similar recipe, only I had a couple more additions. Lots of homemade kefir and yogurt in the formula, too, and if there was any constipation added Aloe and extra lactose.

CATRYNA49 said...

To Watchmom3. I myself started my children on solids between the ages of 8 months and 13 months. An infant goes through several growth spurts at ages 6 weeks, 3 month, 6 months and 9 months. If they have been sleeping through the night between these growth spurts, chances are they will start waking at night to nurse in order to build a larger milk supply in the mother. More nursing creates more milk. Once a larger milk supply has been established, the baby will settle down to less nursing and possibly stop nursing at night. Of course, every baby is different. I had one who slept through the night at 2 months, the extreme was another who had to be broken of the habit after being established on solids. Most infants don't need solids until they are between 5 months and 9 months. If there are allergies in the family, it's best to wait. The baby will let you know, especially when their teeth come in.

DEstined said...

Is there anyway to make this into powder? Or would freezing it be more suitable for carrying on the go without it spoiling?

Thanks,
A concerned father

izabela said...

thank you so much for sharing this with us...I made my first round yesterday and baby loves it..all gone! Just one question..I could not find the raw goat's milk so I used the regular one that we buy at the super market..is that okay???please let me know..thanks you sooooooo very much...

zwinky james said...

I'd like to take the power of thanking you for that specialized guidance I've constantly enjoyed viewing your blog. alkaline water better health

Anonymous said...

i have a 3 month year old and i breastfeed him mostly but I've noticed my breast milk is decreasing and he wants more. so I've been giving him just straight goats milk. a lady we know raises these goats and we get it fresh! BUT he gets really constipated and when he poops its harder than normal. SO i was wondering what i can put in it to stop his constipation.??? any ideas....?
--ALY

Giving Love Encounters said...

We adopted our daughter (she makes 6 :)) in January and I was fortunate enough to have friends pump breast milk for me for the first 5 1/2 months.

I switched her to raw goat's milk 2 weeks ago and am only adding coconut oil (not diluting milk with water either) She is doing great, sleeping well and has great bowel movements.

Here's to hoping this continues....

Megan said...

Thank you for this informative, hopeful post! :) Our son is almost 13 months and I'm not looking forward to our 1 year old check-up with a very allopathic doctor tomorrow. We've been weighing him at home and he hasn't gained any weight (he's 19 pounds 2oz. right now) for about a month. We've been following the GAPS diet for him (but without dairy, as he's allergic to casein) and I'm still breastfeeding 4x/day, but still no weight gain . . . I've been exploring starting raw milk but am hesitant to use cow's.

Would you recommend we do the goat milk formula or just goat milk since he already is on solids (a smaller amount through the day but still lots of the above foods - liver, apples, egg yolks, clams, coconut oil, etc.) and breastmilk?

Carrie @ OrganicThrifty said...

Hi Megan,

I totally understand your concerns about the weight gain. I hope your doctor can see past that and look to see how your son is truly thriving and developing properly.

As for the goat milk, it really doesn't hurt to add the ingredients listed here to it. Because toddler's eating habits can be so "spotty" as they get older, it's nice to have breastmilk/quality formula as a "backbone" to ensure adequate nutrition. That being said, giving him the GAPS-like solids that you are, you are probably going to be fine just giving the raw goat milk.

I hope your son tolerates it well! Please let me know how it goes.

Carrie @ OrganicThrifty said...

@Giving Love:

That is AWESOME!! I am so glad to hear that. I hope it continues as well!

Everyone else---I am sorry I haven't been very responsive. I was "locked out" of my gmail account so I was unable to log in for a while. Now I've reset the password and we're all good. I hope to be posting more on my website soon! Thanks for visiting!

Anonymous said...

Hi, Thank you for the recipie. I am not sure if you know this or not but why does the recipe call for both whey and bifidobacterium infantis. They are both live cultures. I am wondering if I can omit the homemade whey since that would be a lot grocery store trips to get fresh yogurt.

Dkt said...

I tried to email you but it said failed delivery, inbox is full... Is there a different email address than what is listed above? Thanks

Stephanie Stacks said...

Hi Carrie,

I am having the same problem with your email address. Are you still answering questions about your formula recipe. I am just about to start my daughter on this, and would greatly appreciate it!

Stephanie
steph.stacks@gmail.com

Anonymous said...

I breastfed my son, but have been supplementing with low vat paterized cow milk, we cannot get raw milk here in Canada. Would I be ok with using low vat pasterized whole goat milk as well.

Anonymous said...

I'm wondering if powdered camu camu can substitute for the acerola?